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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

handfinished wrote:
That's a great board - I know that a lot of 'hardcore' bodyboarders are put off paipos due to a lack of flex, yet they are fed up with the toxic environmentally damaging sponges they ride. Something along these lines is a very interesting idea, being both a wooden paipo and the size of a conventional bodyboard. Be great to know how it rides and how durable it turns out to be.
Thanks for sharing it! Very Happy


A friend of mine in Delaware is a shaper - he mostly works with EPS & epoxy. He has made a couple of bodyboards and is glassing a paipo made by one of the old guys in the area (looks much like an old El Paipo or Newport Paipo with the spooned out body and very convex nose area). However, we had never really surfed together, just in proximity. The waves were running a relatively clean 3 to 5 foot. He commented to me, "Rod, that paipo is REALLY fast, much faster than a bodyboarder. You're making sections a bodyboarder can't make [except maybe a Mike Stewart] and holding in the wave like a bodyboard can't." By way of reference I was riding the Austin RPM with a 4" center fix and two 2.25" sidebites.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lot more planning area than a bb yes? Longer???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoffreylevens wrote:
Lot more planning area than a bb yes? Longer???


More planning area in length but narrower in width and actually less thick. Less flotation. Overall more of a speed stick than a bodyboard (the BB's rails create more drag as does the bodyboard tail). Template lines both tend to be more parallel than say a typical shortboard or longboard. My board also has fins which aid in holding a rail and carving and driving through sections.

Comparing my board (50x20 inches) to a standard bodyboard (43x21 inches) provides me with roughly 10 percent more planning surface (1000 sq inches vice 900 sq inches).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and the fins do add drag as well. Interesting the nuances in various directions add and subtract to give the final result.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

geoffreylevens wrote:
and the fins do add drag as well. Interesting the nuances in various directions add and subtract to give the final result.


In a strict, static sense it is true that fins add drag. However, one should also consider how fins can add speed compared to a finless bodyboard. For example, riding high in the wave and slide turning on the wave can add speed, something that is not practical on a finless bodyboard. Being able to drive through a section can add speed, and holding, something that is problematic without a skeg(s).
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