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Uncle Grumpy



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Ride Report Reply with quote

We've had some decent waves if you can get it before the wind hits.
I've been riding the latest slider and would like to publicly thank Tom Wegener and our own Kid for their inspiration.
I am continually amazed at the speed and performance of these simple designs.
This thing goes like a bat outta hell and with that big bottom concave running the full length, it's capable of hanging high in a wave and making mid face turns as well as a finned board.
That is, just as long as I don't skootch too far forward. I've never had a board that could pearl like a crash diving submarine before. Confused Shocked Embarassed Laughing







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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice slider uncle G Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle G,

Is the concave the entire length of the board? If so is it the same depth throughout?

I know what you mean by nose diving. It doesn't happen all the time, but occasionally I get the full-on nose dive and it is usually without much warning at all.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is the concave the entire length of the board? If so is it the same depth throughout?

Yes to both.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle G,

Thanks. Is it about 6'?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! These things are super fast, but you really gotta watch that nose in sharp turns! Pearl city!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful, just my style. The concave and bottom shape makes such a difference. The artwork reminds me of some of the stuff by the 'Alaia Religion' guys (alaiareligion.com).
What's the dimensions? Looks a good size.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's 5'6" X15"
The fish design I snagged off the net after a "tribal fish" image search.
The other little thing is a stylized Paulownia flower I found in a Japanese Design Motifs book we have in our home library.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle G, just curious if you notice shoulders or hips dragging since board is narrower than body? Heck, maybe they actually act as part of the board in a sense, adding drag at certain places along the outline...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When riding this board I'm streched out with my arms on the nose and so present a fairly narrow profile, I don't think my hips even hang over the rail.
I do my best to try and even keep my fins out of the water when riding to minimize drag; ideally they only come into play during takeoff and turns.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. Just found local source for pretty reasonable cedar boards but since they are 12" wide would be either a lot of waste if used 2 side by side or a bit too narrow if used only one. Not sure yet about knots etc but it is called incense cedar aka Calocedrus decurrens California Incense-Cedar.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you experimented w/ various widths of alaia type shapes for prone riding? Would love any comments if so...
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is my second paulownia "alaia" board, the first one was documented here:
http://rodndtube.com/paipo/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541&highlight=
It's slightly shorter and wider then the latest. It works just fine.
I have enough paulownia left for one more and am getting ready to build a shorter/wider/thicker model.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you haven't tried one w/ parabolic rails? Loose some planning area but maybe gain a fair bit of hold for carving turns.

from Jon Wegener's site

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The Stuth model features a Parabolic outline and concave bottom. It rides much like a snowboard. Think carving in powder.


I have been thinking of combining Finley concave and parabolic rails maybe 5'X16" I'm only 5'3" so almost body length.

Just found this locally
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Incense Cedar--1" x 12", Solid or Pecky, grades 3 & 4, $2.40 - $3.10 per running foot. High Dimensional Stability - Cedar has very little volumetric shrinkage. This is improved by our process of drying the Cedar to near 0% moisture content.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon and Tom both told me the parabolic rail works best for the longer, thicker stand up boards.
I wouldn't want any less planing area then this has and the board turns surprisingly well as it is; and when I'm ridin' the alaias, I'm all about down the line speed Cool
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