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Getting started. Help shaping first paipo?

 
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frohbego



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:56 pm    Post subject: Getting started. Help shaping first paipo? Reply with quote

Hey everyone just joined the forum. I'm from New Jersey and i just came across this video on korduroy.tv which inspired me to try making a paipo myself.
http://www.korduroy.tv/2011/christine-brailsfordľall-yew

I need some advise of what tools. I think my dad or grandfather may have some of these.

- Can anyone recommend a good electric planner.
- Should i get a belt sander or orbital sander
- Template. Where can i find them?
- Types of wood to buy and where to buy them
- What to use to seal or oil to treat the wood.

Anything else that might help to get started would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
- Jon
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bgreen



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Frohbego,

Search through the archives for the posts below & more. Also Bud Scelsa & Rick Boufford have build info and there are lots of shapes by Larry Goddard here http://mypaipoboards.org/interviews/Paipo_Interviews.shtml. Swaylocks is a source of tool info as well :

Bob

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More Ply Bellyboards!

Hackin' at lumps of ply, advise before I waste resources!

shaping

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would start simple use some birch ply or some marine ply 1/2" thick will do fine. I get birch from the home depot you can get marine ply from a good lumber yard or a boat biulders yard cost about $15. I would start it 40" long and about 20 to 22" wide. shape the rail rounded down with hand plane or belt sander be careful with the belt sander you can take too much off real fast finish the rails with orbital sander. as for shape use one that you like (K.I.S) keep it simple useing a jig saw. I coat my boards with oil (tang) I also use spar varnish. with oil you have to reapply from time to time with varnish I use about 6 coats and sand with 400 paper after each coat. simple tools you should have them on hand. hope I have helped Cool





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OG-AZN



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second what Mr. Mike said about 1/2" plywood. I found that thickness gives the right amount of flex for most conditions. The boards in the video look like 3/4" ply or thicker. Also can't argue with keeping it simple. I make all my paipos with just an electric jigsaw, a file/rasp combo for the rail shaping, and sandpaper around a block of wood to finish. Unless you intend to put a concave or convex in the board, you might not need a power planer if you use good quality plywood. The quality birch & marine plywoods are usually pretty smooth from the start and free of big knots. Generic /found/recycled plywood works fine too (what I usually use) but there will be more surface finishing work involved. I don't know of any ready made templates for paipos, but there are some for alaias online. The tradition was just to make your own for paipos. The quick & dirty was folded newspaper or heavy cardboard. In addition to varnish, a coat of marine epoxy also protects well and is easier to apply & long lasting.

What part of Jersey are you from? I lived / surfed in the S. Jersey area for a few years in the 90's. Good times.
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Soulglider



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:12 am    Post subject: skjv Reply with quote

you can go as simple as a rectangle or a slight trapizoid with rounded corners. keep the rails square and just round the edges off so you dont get splinters. 1/2" ply IS the way to go and just about any outline works. i've tried all kinds of rails but the square seems to be best for "bite," i've learned from the alaia guys. oil is real easy but, like MM says you must reapply now and again. i use teak oil and apply 3-4 coats before using. it hardens from the inside of the wood out. i have a bunch of examples on my sight, check it out. have fun!
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