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Woodstock · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts:

Hey, folks! I've been gone for a while, but I'm back, and I've brought some goodies!

This is going to be my first alaia. It's made up of two cedar 1x8s and a redwood 1 1/2x4, all eight feet long, and with a pint of Titebond III. The glue-up was quite messy, being that I lack clamps. But I decided to be a lunkhead about it and rig up a form for it out of two-by-fours. It came out all wonky due to the extra 1/4" on the redwood stringer, but I managed to make it symmetrical

.... With the help of a very busted hand planer.

I got rid of the extra 1/4" in the stringer the old fashioned way, being that I wanted to use hand tools exclusively in this build.

This is a full sized yardwaste barrel, and it's about a third of the way filled with wood shavings.

I'm gonna start shaping tomorrow morning.

geoffreylevens · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts:

If you have a compost pile going it would love those shavings!

global ernie · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: Location: northern nsw

i have been intending to try one of those surform planes, have never used on timber. how do they perform? also start buying some cramps
there is no such thing as too many.

geoffreylevens · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts:

Using a surform on wood will give you plenty of cramps. HAH!!! Seriously, you better have a strong set of arms on you. I think better to use a real block plane etc. if you have much wood to remove.

And always remember this quote from the famous Paipomeistro Mr. Mike, "You can't have too many clamps!"

geoffreylevens · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts:

Hmmm, when I try to post after a long grind I get error/timed out msg. Seems the post goes up on board anyway so I got a threefer...

geoffreylevens · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts:

doubled up

Uncle Grumpy · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: Location: San Clemente

Surforms work well. They were invented for wood to begin with.
However, I get much more use from a two sided Shinto rasp.

In USA we call 'em clamps.

The Cramps are famous for Goo Goo Muck and Bikini Girls With Machine Guns

Cramps you get from kicking too hard in cold water.

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Woodstock · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts:

Sureform rasps are an absolute blessing, in my eyes. I started using them when I was making bows, and they're good for hogging wood out as well as fine little details. My only recommendation is to get the ones with the handle turned ninety degrees. The ones shaped like a shinto rasp aren't good for planing long, thin surfaces.

As for the strong arms comment, working heavy construction with my father has given me both work experience and a pretty decent muscle structure. However, my technique involves leaning the board at an angle on a shopping cart, and using my entire body (Starting with moving my arms at the top, and about halfway down I start moving my hips till I hit the bottom)

global ernie · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: Location: northern nsw

we speak both English and American here in 'strayla.both terms are used (with confusion). boatbuilders and chippies (carpenter) often use cramps and the proles tend to use clamps. i have not seen or heard of shinto rasps before, assuming that they have a course and smoother side??

Uncle Grumpy · Joined: 15 Jan 2007 Posts: Location: San Clemente

Yeah two "grits".
They are made out of two sided saw blades bent and pinned together to form a very efficient rasp.
They're made flat and offset as well.

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puurri · Joined: 26 Oct 2009 Posts: Location: sydney, OZ

Having quite a few years in Oz boatbuilding they are referred to as clamps.

Cramps are wot wimmins get, KO?

global ernie · Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: Location: northern nsw

have to disagree puurri, both terms are acceptable. my business partner
uses the term cramp, he has built in excess of 10,000 surfboards and did a shipwrights apprenticeship with Swanson Bros in Sydney 30 yrs ago.
my great grandfather built cedar boats on the north coast/clarence river
in the 19thcent.... family has always used the term cramp. dictionaries recognise both cramp and clamp as the same artifact. i could cite further evidence to support this argument but.... there is no right or wrong here only difference and this world badly needs an appreciation of difference.

bgreen · Joined: 20 Feb 2004 Posts: Location: Qld. Oz

Not to get too excited about semantics but I come from a long line of boatbuilders (unfortunately I inherited none of their skill). George Green, my great great grandfather began a boatbuilding apprenticeship in 1822 and from my father it was always cramps.

Nels · Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:56 am Post subject:

Not to get too excited about semantics

I can appreciate any country that can fill an Oxford Dictionary-sized book with various slang terms just for vomiting.

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Woodstock · Joined: 12 Jun 2011 Posts:

Anyways, now that we're done jacking my thread, here's more pictures.

And a little sneak peek at my next project...