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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Bellyboard build! Reply with quote

Today I decided to try another way of bending ply. A carpenter friend told me to try clamping and gluing 3 layers of 3mm ply to get the desired nose-lift, rather than steaming and bending 9mm ply. I've tried this twice with limited success. I started by making a jig to clamp the ply, leaving space to bend the nose up. (the base is an old paulownia paipo) The Jig
Jig with 3 layers of ply, ready for gluing.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, how do you steam bend? I've heard of it before, but don't know how it is done or what it involves.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've actually only ever used the boiling water method that Mike talks about, but I've tried steaming by boiling a big pot of water and putting the board in the pot but not touching the water. I tried to seal it with a lid, but I don't think it was quite hot enough since the board sprang back most of the way within a day or so.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gluing, clamping and ......waiting!



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems pretty strange to me, here in the UK, to be drilling holes in a paulownia paipo, to make a jig for assembling a plywood bellyboard. I'd love a paulownia paipo. Plywood bellyboards are quite easy to find in the UK. Even quite old ones with interesting logos. Paulownia is so hard to find over here. Haven't found a timber yard yet that stocks it. In fact the only thing I can find it used for in any amount is by undertakers for making coffins!
The whole thing goes full circle...the first bellyboards used in the UK were coffin lids supplied by the local undertaker!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hearing you! it's just the opposite here! Paulownia is easily accessible, but a real plywood bellyboard is harder to find than rocking-horse turds! Here's some more pics!
Blank ready for "shaping"
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Ready for sanding and varnish!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll make you a deal Brooky, you track down a vintage ply bellyboard for me, and I'll bring you a custom paulownia paipo when I come over for the Bellyboard worlds in September!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used the tub hot water method and it worked pretty well on plywood, until I glassed it and inadvertently straightened it back out again.
The steam method as I understand it is a boiling kettle with a pipe to a steam box - made from wood. They use that a lot for wooded boats? With the little experience I've had with that, the steam can make the wood really flexible - super noodley. What I would like is a method for adding nose rocker and side to side. I think it's not too hard to add it in one direction but if you are going for two directions, how do you keep the wood from buckling? Cut out little sections? I've also wondered about using single lams. I think that a single lam might bend more easily in two directions and then additional lams could be added. But that's probably beyond my wood crafting ability. Anyone have any experience with that kind of approach? I'm only talking about an inch - inch and a half of gradual bend.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

very well done kid Idea
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kage,

Concrete moulds and microwave presses have been used for used previously for commercial operations. I recall doing a search for bending or moulding plywood. I also vaguely recall a book on making furniture had a bit on two way bending.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the paint is drying on my bellyboard, my son Manny has been hassling me to help him make one for himself. Here's some pics of us gluing and clamping the wood to make his first board! At four years old, he's the youngest board builder I know! Ha Ha!



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bellyboard cut out, sanded and first coat of boat varnish!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see that it is clothing optional board biulding Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha, yeah, he's a nudist! It's hard enough to get him to wear a shirt!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what surfing is all about! His first board build, his first (almost non-existant) wave! His expression says it all!


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