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Paipo action pix from this morning

 
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PaipoJim
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:28 pm    Post subject: Paipo action pix from this morning Reply with quote
A pretty good size swell for this time of year arrived. It was very hazy so these shots are a bit overexposed.







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ted



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey Jim,

That looks like fun. Are you riding an HPD?

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PaipoJim
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ted wrote:
Are you riding an HPD?


That's not me, I was behind the lens, but yes that is an HPD. Which, btw, did not stay in the rider's hands when this macking closeout caught up with him!

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jim,

In some of those photos it looked like the guy riding didn't have his upper body in contact with the board but was being held off the board by his arms with the first point of contact being his hips & his legs were in the wave.

Is this just an illusion or how the board was being ridden?

Was this the same guy standing up?


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bgreen wrote:
In some of those photos it looked like the guy riding didn't have his upper body in contact with the board but was being held off the board by his arms with the first point of contact being his hips & his legs were in the wave.

Is this just an illusion or how the board was being ridden?


Yeah he's going for maximum leverage on the board. It also looks like it's falling away from him on the drop a little bit.

Personally I like to hold the board away in front of me when taking off in order to get my legs and fins fully submerged for maximum thrust and usually use one of my arms for paddling too. Once I start to catch the wave I simultaneously slde the board under me and put my leading hand (the one on the side I want to turn into) on the nose with my forearm resting along the inside rail. I grab way back on the outside rail with my other hand and pull up while shifting my weight to my inside elbow and hip.

The downside to this style is that you can get a pretty serious jolt from that leading arm's elbow up through the shoulder if you freefall down a face when it starts to get into the overhead range size wise. I get my chest down on the board when trimmed for maximum speed down the line but often get up off the board when wrestling it around as a sort of infinitely adjustable bow plane for more radical maneuvers like sharp turns or getting around sections out in the flat.

I'd also add that while the guy in the pix will reach back with the outside hand for turning he rides with a more symmetrical hand grab with both of his hands holding the rails a way back from the nose so he is usually off the board even more than I am but that has its disadvantages.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
PJ,

Thanks. Video footage would really bring to life what you are describing.

Got any pics of the sharp turns you describe. I have really only seen pictures of planning/bottom turning HPDS, so the turns & how you do them interest me.


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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
bgreen wrote:
I have really only seen pictures of planning/bottom turning HPDS, so the turns & how you do them interest me.


Paul has a lot of pics on his site. There's one labeled HARD TURN that shows someone pulling up on the outside rail. Everyone pulls up on the rail and pivots off the inside corner don't they? The board is designed to roll on the chine and sink the inside corner. I don't imagine it actually works any other way. It seems to me the only real variable is leading/inside arm/hand placement.

How do you turn yours?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
PJ,

I went through a quick tour of the photos on http://www.paipo.com/html/indexFrame.html

They are essentially bottoms turns (and some very radical on-rail ones at that), takeoffs or planning in the pit.

I don't surf my HPD enough, but my guess is a combination of weight on the corners , elbow weight and guiding the nose with the front hand - this is influenced by how I ride the board I mostly surf which has a rope handle on the deck which is held and pulled and pulled - combined, with elbow leverage and weight pressure over channels.


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