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gcs
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soooo. How did the wave-skaters perform Question
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Poobah
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was waiting for good waves, then I found out I need to move. It's quite an ordeal, because I havn't moved for about five years. A couple more weeks then I'll have some spare time.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look kinda basic in design and the blurb on their web page a bit infant simple. Im not bagging them, thats just as it is to me. Love to hear that they were light years ahead of current boards, so I will wait for the review....
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Poobah
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Slippery as snot on a glass doorknob," said my wife. I wouldn't know, because I have yet to encounter my first snotty doorknob. The stock skater is too slick for arm paddling with both arms. It squirts out from under me. I keep one hand on the nose during take offs. So it needs something. Either a rough sanding or a deck pad.

The ride? The only big waves were sloppy and mostly walled out. I also had it out on some weeny days. It manuevers well. I don't know how much speed is sacrificed. I think maybe I need to compare it to a big boy sponge. Ride both the same day for reference. I'll let you know. Maybe I'll cruise up the coast this weekend and visit some place I've never ridden before.
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PaipoJim
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poobah wrote:
"Slippery as snot on a glass doorknob," said my wife. I wouldn't know, because I have yet to encounter my first snotty doorknob. The stock skater is too slick for arm paddling with both arms. It squirts out from under me.

Sounds like you need to move up to a Carlisle Griptite. I hear the new 31.5 really rips, AND it's dishwasher safe!


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Poobah
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have a 31.5 x 23.5 inch Carlisle. Is the new model narrower than 23.5 inches? A mini-gun tray?

Hmmm...perhaps I could modify my tray to be more like a Wave Skater. Make some divinycell hulls and stick them on with contact cement. This is after all the Year of the Cat Board. I keep trying to remind myself of that.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poobah wrote:
I already have a 31.5 x 23.5 inch Carlisle. Is the new model narrower than 23.5 inches? A mini-gun tray?

Laughing You bet! The Griptite wide-oval roundtail line includes 27x22 and 25x19 models and they both still come with that same great, non-slip, bonded-rubber deck. Cool

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Make some divinycell hulls and stick them on with contact cement.

Good choice of material, but no fin(s) ??? Wuzzup wit' dat? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Waveskat....ology. Reply with quote

You guys are having too much fun with this topic!
After my previous, totally innocent posting, I received from the company concerned, an e mail that had a slightly defensive tone to it.
I, like everyone wish to see the boundaries challenged, progress achieved and satisfaction aplenty and although I think revolutionary design may be just out of their reach, I still consider that they have their hand on it. Its a loose grip, but its there for sure. Regards, Spuuut.
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PaipoJim
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spuuut wrote:
You guys are having too much fun with this topic!

It can't be helped! The similarities between the Wave Skater XR and Carlisle Griptite are uncanny. Both boards are designed with easy-to-grab rails, and feature "ergonomic stomach cavities" (an especially welcome feature to veteran beer drinkers.) Cool

The Carlisle has a finer entry but the Wave Skater clearly has a lower drag tail, although the Carlisle could be brought up to snuff with about 20 seconds time on the jig saw. The Skater's channel bottom could also be easily approximated on the Carlisle with a heat gun, a 3 foot long 4"x4" and one corner of the family car.

Any advantage acruing to the XR due to its greater length may very well be offset by the superior traction of the Griptite's rubber deck. And don't forget, the Carlisle is only a third the Wave Skater's price.

It's time for a Wave Skater XR vs. Carlisle Griptite in-the-water shootout !!! Razz
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Poobah
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The channel on the Wave Skater is both tapered and concave. The whole board is an impressive combination of complex curves. Those curves are possible, because of their molded manufacturing process. The tradeoff is a slick deck. I can accept that trade off. I don't want to wax it. Maybe sand it, or a peel-n-stick traction pad. Maybe I get a new wetsuit vest with a textured chest/belly. I'm sure plenty of folks will like the slick deck, like people that don't like wearing shirts or rash guards in the water, or don't arm paddle their boards. People that just jump into the wave in waist-deep water will probably not mind the slick deck. Personally I think the deck concave could have extended farther forward, but that's also something I can modify if I want to. Bottom line...I like the ride. I have no regrets about buying two of them.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:43 pm    Post subject: wax Reply with quote

Each time i post here I get another email from 'The Waveskater Empire' and so it was again this morning Shocked Is anyone else getting these E mails cuz Id hate to be singled out from the herd Embarassed Regards Spuuut.
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Nels
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Each time i post here I get another email from 'The Waveskater Empire' and so it was again this morning Is anyone else getting these E mails cuz Id hate to be singled out from the herd


That might have something to do with having your e-mail address in your posts...

Waveskater guys - join up and post here! It's the last outpost of freaky iconoclasts in surfing.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject: d'oh Reply with quote

So if this Waveskater thing isnt going to set the standard of excellence for bodyboarding design, then what is? There must be something better than this injection molded environmental disaster.
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tumak
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed a similarity between the Wave Skater bottom contour and the paipos of John Galera.

I'm expecting my spankin' new Wave Skater in the mail today or tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to getting the thing wet on Saturday. We'll have an East swell running, and I'm STOKED. My blue fish Namkhai is an absolute ROCKET, so it's going to be very interesting to feel the "double pontoon" effect in terms of bankability and down-the-line speed. Will it provide the necessary velocity for this speed junkie?

A report and review will follow...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay. Here's the news. My Wave Skater came in today's mail, and I actually got it out into the surf for about a half-hour before dark. Now see, I never went through a bodyboard phase. I got a boogie for my first wife back in the late 70's. Tried it a few times. Recently I tried another one... without the benefit of fins (flippers)!!! I'm strictly a paipo guy with a long (41 year) stand-up history to boot.

My review: You know, I love this thing because I love everything. It's all about perspective. I'm certainly not a specialist or a craftsman like some of you guys, but I see this craft as an advanced step forward for the bodyboarder, viably articulated in such a way as to address a viable market. It doesn't ride at all like my paipos, and it doesn't have to! It's a bodyboard, made by an experienced bodyboarder for other bodyboarders! To me it's like having a little aquatic flying saucer.

I believe I have a lot to learn about riding it. I think performance on this is defined differently than it is for streaking high-performance paipos like my 4'10" fish. By comparison, the W.S. has boggy and sideways action, but perhaps that's just my own lack of experience on bodyboards showing. Whatever it is, it is what it is, and regardless of my perception, I think it's really cool.

Mine is that black & yellow swirl design, and it's 46.5" long. I'm about 6'2", usually around 182 these days. Like Poobah, I took it out leashless in waves that were approaching head-high... semi-choppy. The thing felt good. I used Sticky Bumps Tour Series wax... which is the best wax I've ever used! No slippage. I too, though, lost the board punching through (semi-ducking) oncoming whitewater. Next time I'll probably just use the cord. I liked the ergonomics of the board; it's pleasing to my sensibilities.

I look forward to perfecting its use as a prone surfcraft, and I look forward to the good times I'm sure it will provide in its unique way.
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